Anton Haddad and the Convent of Muhammad to the Christians

Anton F. Haddad

Thank you so much to Dr. Muhammad al-Ahari from Chicago, who has very kindly written an article for Hira Cumorah. It is a blessing indeed to have such a distinguished scholar and writer, sharing his knowledge and thoughts with us.

By Dr. Muhammed al-Ahari (Chicago)

Anton F. Haddad (1861-1924) was a Christian Arab who was an early Baha’i writer in the United States. Haddad graduated in 1882 with a B.A. from the Syrian Protest College in Beirut (later known as the American University of Beirut). He married in 1890 and had two children, a boy and a girl.

Haddad came to the United States in 1893 and later spread the Baha’i’ Faith with his friend Ibrahim George Kheiralla. He was also an associate of Muhammad Alexander Russell Webb, and gave several speeches on Islam and Christianity at Webb’s Manhattan-based Islamic Propagation Center in the 1890s. He later worked with Lant and other former associates of Webb.

The following brief mentions of his work were found in William Abdullah Quilliams’s The Crescent and Muhammad Alexander Russell Webb’s Muslim World. In the Crescent we read,

“ACCCORDING to Mr. Anton Haddad, “for the last 60 years, not a single Mohammedan or Druze in Syria has been converted to Christianity,” on the other hand, sixty thousand persons belonging to the sect of Nowsayre Christians, near Latagnia (Syria), have recently been converted to Mohammedanism. This failure on the part of Church-Christianity in the presence of the astonishing success achieved by Islam must have its cause. Is this due to the inability of the Church-Christian missionaries or to the intrinsic truth and beauty of Islam?”

While Webb had the following remarks in issues 6 and 7 of his Muslim World,


“THE first public meeting at Islamic Head the quarters, 458 West 20th Street, New York, was held on Friday evening, October 6. There was a large attendance. An introductory address was made by Mr. Webb, and words of welcome to Islam in America, were made by Mr. Emin L. Nabakoff, Mr. Leon Landsberg and Mr. J. A. Lant.  These were followed by further remarks by Mr. Webb on the organization of the Moslem Brotherhood in the United States.

The meeting on Sunday afternoon, October 8, was also a gratifying success. Islam was ably expounded by Mr. Webb. A paper was read by Mr. A. Haddad, a Syrian Christian, entitled, “Why I believe in Mohammed.” Many questions concerning Islam were asked by persons in the audience, and answered briefly or at some length, as the case required, by Mr. Webb.

These meetings will be continued every Friday evening at 8, and every Sunday afternoon at 2:30 p. m. Friday evenings, Islamic doctrines and customs; Sunday afternoons, brief addresses and replies to questions concerning Islam.

On Friday night, October 13, Mr. A. Haddad will read a paper on “The Christian Missionaries of Syria,” which will throw some light on their methods that will be interesting.

Mr. Webb spoke before the Parliament of Religions, Chicago, September 20 and 21, at Chickering Hall, New York, September 29, at the Y.M.C. A. Hall, Brooklyn, September 30, and Lee Avenue Academy of Music, Brooklyn, October 1; also, at five other towns and cities since. He will lecture in the vicinity of New York for societies or will hold parlor meetings in or near the city if requested to do so, for such remuneration only as will cover expenses.

Haddad later returned to Lebanon where he had served as the English language Secretary of War Office from 1885-1892. Haddad travelled to Egypt (where he was introduced to the Baha’i’ Faith), France, Belgium, England, and the United States. He later left the Baha’i’ Faith and served as a Protestant Christian Minister in his homeland. He died in 1924 at ‘Ayn-Zhalta, Lebanon.


Haddad, Anton, 1895 Jan. 2 (5) The Crescent (Liverpool)

Muslim World Vol. 1: No. 6

Note in Webb’s the Muslim World Vol. 1, No. 7.

Haddad, Aton (1902). The Oath of Mohammad to the Followers of the Nazarene. Published by Baha’i Board of Counsel, N. Y.

The Oath of Mohammad to the Followers of the Nazarene

Translated by Anton F. Haddad, 1902;

Published by Baha’i Board of Counsel, N. Y.

As an of the injustice and intolerance which has characterized the attitudes of Christians toward the Great Prophet Mohammad, and to prove how unfortunate is their error in attributing hatred and cruelty to him in dealing with the followers of the Nazarene, I wish, for the sake of Truth and Christian enlightenment, to quote Mohammad’s words, his valid oath and covenant concerning them.

This oath, entrusted by Mohammad to his Caliphs, is an expression of his authoritative command to them as to their attitude toward the followers of the Christ through the whole world. The oath referred to was issued by the Prophet Mohammad to the Christian Monks at St. Catherine in the Sinai. A copy of it was translated into Turkish, while the original is still preserved in the treasury of the Sultan in Constantinople. This same Turkish copy was translated into Arabic by Naufal Effendi Naufal, a Christian of Tripoli, Syria; which translation is recorded in a book written by him and known as Sunnajatu’t-Tarab.

The oath is as follows,

“This letter is issued by Mohammad ibn Abdullah, the Messenger, the Prophet, the Faith, who is sent to all the people as a trust on the part of God to all His creatures, that they may not have no plea against God hereafter – Verily God is the Mighty, the Wise.

“This letter is directed to the embracers of Islam, and who disobeys that which is therein will be consider a disobeyer and a transgressor to that whereunto he is commanded. He will be regarded as one who has corrupted the oath of God, disbelieved His testament, rejected His Authority, despised His Religion, and made himself deserving of His Curse, whether he is Sultan or any believer of Islam.

“Whenever monks, devotees and pilgrims gather together, whether in a mountain, valley, or den, or frequented place, plain, or church, or in houses of worship, verily we are back of them and shall protect them, and their properties, and their morals, by Myself, by My friends and by My assistants, for they are My subjects and under My protection.

“I shall exempt them from that which may disturb them; of the burdens that is paid by others as an oath of allegiance. They must not give anything of their income except that which pleases them – they must not be offended, or disturbed, coerced, or compelled. Their judges should not be changed or prevented from accomplishing their office, nor the monks disturbed in exercising their religious order, or people of seclusion stopped from dwelling in their cells.

“No one is allowed to plunder their pilgrims, or destroy or spoil any of their churches, or houses of worship, or take anything contained within these houses and bring it to the houses of Islam. And he that takes anything there from, will be one who has corrupted the oath of God, and, in truth, disobeyed his Messenger.

“Poll taxes should not be put upon judges, monks, and those whose occupation is the worship of God; nor is any other thing to be taken from them, whether it be a fine, a tax, or any unjust right.

“Verily I shall keep their compact in the East or the West, in the North or the South, for they are under My protection and the testament of My safety, against all things which they abhor.

“No tax or tithe should be received from those who devote themselves to the worship of God in the mountains, or from those who cultivate the Holy Land. No one has the right to interfere with their affairs, or bring any action against them – Verily this is for ought else and not for them; rather, in the seasons of crops, they should be given a Qadah for each Ardab of wheat (about five bushels and a half) as provision for them, and no one has the right to say to them that this is too much, or ask them to pay any tax.

“As for them that possess properties, the wealthy and merchants, the poll tax must not exceed12 dirhams a year (i.e. about 45 cents).

“They shall not be imposed upon by anyone to take a journey; or be forced to go to wars or carry arms; for the Muslims have to fight for them. Do not dispute or argue with them but deal with them according to the verse revealed in the Qur’an, “Do not dispute or argue with the People of the Book but in that which is best.” Thus, they will live favored and protected from everything which may offend them by the callers to religion (Islam), wherever they may be and in any place they may dwell.

“Should any Christian woman be married to a Muslim, such marriage should not take place except after her consent, and she must not be prevented from going to church for her prayers. Their churches must be honored, and they must not be prevented from building churches and repairing convents,

“They must not be forced to carry arms or stones; but Muslims must protect them and defend them from other. It is positively incumbent upon every one of the Muslim nation not to contradict or disobey this oath until the Day of Resurrection and the end of this world.”

This is the oath which Muhammad ibn Abdullah gave to the Christian nation, the fulfillment and promulgation which has been agreed upon by all the witnesses who have hitherto attached their names. It was signed by the great assistants of Mohammad as follows:

Ali ibn Abi Talib

Abu Bakr ibn Kahafat

Omar ibn al-Khatab

Othman ibn Affan


Abu Hairarat

Abdullah ibn Masoud

Abbas ibn Abdul Mutalib

El-Fadl ibn Abbas

Ezzubair ibn El-Ewam

Talhat ibn Abdullah

Said ibn Maath

Said ibn Abada

Thabit ibn Nafees

Zaid ibn Thabit

Abu Hanifah ibn Attaba

Hashim ibn Obeid

Mazamm ibn Qoreish

El-Harith ibn Thabit

Abul Azamm ibn Hassan

Abdullah Ibn Omar ibn al-Aas

Amaar ibn Yasir

This oath was written by the hand of `Ali ibn Abi Talib in the worship place of the Prophet in the third day of Muharrem in the second year of al-Hijrah.”

Are the Pashtun People the “Lost Tribes of Israel?”

A Pashtun man in Afghanistan

As a devout Latter-day Saint (Mormon), the “Lost Tribes of Israel” is, to me, a very important topic, that is essential to my faith. I have studied the various theories regarding where the “Lost Tribes” could be, and we Latter-day Saints know that many of the Tribes were scattered throughout the world, and are being gathered today. But, what if many people of the Tribes stayed in one area? And what if they remained pretty much unblemished from the world, and have managed to retain much of their Israelite culture? Well, look no further than the Pashtun people of Afghanistan to receive the answers to those questions. The idea that the Pashtun people are the descendants of the “Lost Tribes of Israel,” is indeed the theory that has hooked me the most, and it makes the most sense, and also holds the most amount of evidence out of all the other theories, and I am certain (in my own personal beliefs) that the Pashtun theory is indeed true.

Now, I was going to write a lengthy article on this, but I have found that there are many articles already available on this subject on the internet, that will give you far more detail and information that I could. So, below I have shared some incredible links, that detail the Pashtun culture, and how they are most certainly the “Lost Tribes of Israel,” I encourage all Latter-day Saints to also read these articles, and watch the YouTube videos I have also provided, as I believe that the Pashtun people will soon hear the Restored Gospel, and know that the Lord is once again gathering the rest of their people (the Israelite’s). I am also currently studying the Pashto Language, for this very reason. Please see the links below:

One of the best articles on the subject:

Is Alice Cooper a Mormon?

Alice Cooper performing in 2016 (Wikimedia Commons Public Domain)

Rock Music icon Alice cooper is indeed a Mormon, well he grew up as one at least. You may have heard this statement thrown around before, and many Latter-day Saints believe he is, but how “Mormon” is he. Alice Cooper, was born Vincent Damon Furnier, in 1948, to Ether Moroni Furnier (what a great Mormon name that is) and Ella Mae in Detroit, Michigan. 

So when Latter-day Saints state that Alice Cooper is a “Mormon”, they are not wrong, as he grew up in a very strong Mormon family, and at Church he was always known as “Vinny,” but they’re wrong when they claim that Alice Cooper was a “Latter-day Saint.”

Alice Cooper grew up in the Church of Jesus Christ (also known as the Bickertonite Church, and sometimes the Rigdonite Church), and his grandfather, Thurman Sylvester Furnier, was an Apostle of the Church of Jesus Christ, and also was once the President of the whole Church. Although Alice Cooper grew up in the Bickertonite Church, and he came from a solid Mormon lineage, he was never officially baptised.

The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite or Rigdonite Church) was formed during the succession crisis after the death of the Prophet Jospeh Smith. Many Mormons followed Sydney Rigdon, and William Bickerton, as they thought that Sidney Rigdon was the rightful heir to the Prophethood after Joseph Smith. Many Mormons also followed Brigham Young (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), James Strang (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith III (Reorganised Church of Jesus Christ, now known as the Community of Christ) and many more sects. This is the reason why Mormonism has so many sects, as people didn’t know whom to follow after the death of Joseph Smith, as Joseph stated previously that his brother Hyrum Smith will be the next Prophet. Of course, tragically Hyrum would be martyred along with Joseph. Did you know that Hyrum was actually a free man? He was there purely to support and be a comfort to Joseph Smith. Hyrum was extremely loyal, and never let his younger Brother, and Prophet Joseph face anything alone. I’ll talk more about this little known history in the next blog.

I will be writing a much more in-depth article on the Mormon succession crisis over the weekend.

I can just hear BYU students now singing “Schools Out” at the end of term!

What Are the Best Mormon Blogs/Websites?

The Kirtland Temple 1912 (Wikimedia Commons Public Domain)

People usually ask me what are my favourite blogs/websites for information on Mormonism, and Mormon history. Apart from Hira Cumorah (wink wink) there are some fantastic blogs and websites that I highly recommend to everyone who is interested in studying Mormonism more deeply. So, I’ve decided to share my favourite blogs/websites on Mormonism here. Please check out the links below to access the sites. I apologize if some of the links didn’t upload to this post, but just type in the names into Google that I have provided and they’ll come straight up.

Gospel Tangents is by far the best podcast regarding Mormon history, science, and theology today:

The Joseph Smith Papers:

Benjamin the Scribe:

Sic Et Non:

Fair Mormon:


Pure Mormonsim:


The Nephi Project:

Interpreter Foundation:

John Whitmer Historical Association:


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints website:

Sunstone Magazine:

Saints Unscripted:

By Common Consent:


LDS Perspectives Podcast:

Times and Seasons:

Meridian Magazine:

Wheat and Tares:

Times and Seasons:

Book of Mormon Central:

I am not trying to compete with any other blog or website dedicated to Mormonism, so I have absolutely no problem with sharing links to some of the best blogs/websites dedicated to Mormon and Gospel studies. Enjoy reading through the sites I have mentioned above, they’re all top class.

One More Comment Regarding the City Creek Mall

Another view of the City Creek Center in Salt Lake City, Utah.

If only those Anti-Mormons who attack the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints over the building of the City Creek Mall would actually read my previous blogs on the matter. The other day another friend of mine commented on the City Creek Mall, and I really appreciate him for sharing his thoughts. Thank you Lincoln Sorenson.

Here is what Lincoln has to say on the City Creek Mall:

Very interesting article. Well written. I’m doing an internship with the Church of Jesus Christ right now specifically involved in IT Infrastructure Temple support and from what I have seen it is expensive to operate the Church throughout the world. It makes sense that the Church invests heavily in various investments to help fund the spreading of the gospel throughout the world. It would be very difficult to do all the good that the Church does with limited amounts of money (even though Tithing provides a great income to operate the Church). The parable of the talents in Matthew 25 also is evidence that a person should be making more of what’s been given. I think the Church follows this well. All of this is just my opinion of course, but it does take a lot of money to run a Church that operates with 16 million + members globally, let alone gives generously to help the poor and needy.

Some additional Information on the City Creek Mall

A couple of great responses from my good friends Jeremy Marshall and Victor Fodor in reference to my previous blog titled “The Truth Behind the City Creek Mall.” Their comments add so much more information to the original article, and for that I am truly thankful.

Jeremy Marshall:

“There is a lot of wisdom with the church building City Creek.

1) its connected to Temple Square. It draws people to the area.

2) The Gateway shopping mall was a move to draw traffic away from Temple Square

3) As a church owned mall, they can control what kind of tenants inhabit the area and to an extent, how they market their products (some retailers essentially utilize ‘soft porn’ to market their wares, the church can stamp that out).”

I totally agree with Jeremy, and I should of added those thoughts in the original article.

Victor Fodor: 

“The LDS Church as a major stake holder had to step in to fund this massive but vital downtown city project to revitalise the heart of Salt Lake City and stop it degenerating into a wasteland like the urban heart of so many other US cities. I wise move by The LDS Church. This project has revitalised the heart of downtown Salt Lake City which is adjacent to Temple Square and other historic and important LDS Church buildings and facilities and organisations. Investment and reinvigoration is better than stagnation and decline. Downtown Salt Lake City has seen a huge increase in other investment and local visitors since the completion of this vital community infrastructure and hub. Inspiration and vision and investment and planning and foresight have paid off in more ways than one. A good move by The LDS Church. As a non Church member journalist said about the project “The LDS Church has put its money fairly and squarely right where it’s cultural and spiritual heart is and has reaped the rewards”. I would add reaped the blessings. The integrity and well being of the cultural and spiritual heart of Salt Lake City and the LDS Church is safe and secure for generations to come.

It is Important Not to Become Anti Anti-Mormon

The Current Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints publication of the Book of Mormon

Throughout my years of being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and maybe through faults of my own, I have had many discussions (or attempted discussion) with many Anti-Mormons. You know the ones who spread so much hatred towards the Prophets, and our teachings, and spout their hatred online in blogs and forums. I have always tried my best to stay civil with them, and in the past have fallen into their traps and began arguing back. Here is one of the good things that Bruce R. McConkie taught in his encyclopaedia of “Mormon Doctrine.”

“Except under very unusual circumstances, debates play no part in the approved system of presenting the message of salvation to the world or of persuading members of the Church to accept a particular doctrine or view. Almost always a debate entrenches each contestant and his sympathisers more firmly in the views already held. “Debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults,”—all these Paul describes as evil. (2 Corinthians 12:20; Roman’s 1:29.)

Rather, the Lord has directed, the Elders are to “declare glad tidings,” that is, to explain, expound, and teach the restoration. “And thou shalt do it with all humility,” he directs, “trusting in me, reviling not against revilers. And of tenets thou shall not talk.” (D&C 19:29-31.) There are to be no arguments about peculiar doctrinal concepts that people may have; the Elders are simply to explain their message and bear testimony of its truthfulness.

If a situation arises in which the Elders cannot in honour refuse a challenge to debate an issue, as when by withdrawing from the discussion they would lose their investigators, then it may be proper to go ahead and engage in the debate or discussion. In such instances, if the Elders are as informed as they should be, they always come off victorious. The truth is with the Saints, and truth will stand of its own self.”

(-Bruce R. McConkie)

I have however, learnt a lot in the past couple of years, and that is to make sure that I don’t become Anti Anti-Mormon, as it just harbours to many bad feelings, and I ended up not liking the Anti-Mormon people very much, which is totally contradictory to the loving Gospel of Jesus Christ. Even Joseph Smith was totally opposed to arguing and fighting back against his persecutors.

If only we could show those Anti-Mormons love, respect, and kindness, I am sure that deep inside they will ponder and begin to question themselves regarding how unkind they have been to members of the Church. I have had one positive experience since I stopped arguing with them. Last year I was a member of one of those “Biblical Christians vs Mormon debate (although at times they just seem like Mormon bashing groups) sorry I mean “discussion” groups (yes some Latter-day Saints can be just as argumentative as our critics), and I received a message from an Anti-Mormon lady, who was Anglican by faith, about how much evil Joseph Smith supposedly taught in his translation of the Bible. She was accusing Joseph Smith of purposely changing verses in the Bible to suite his own, adulterous and greedy agenda. She then accused me, and wanted to know “how in the world can I defend and follow such an evil and demonic individual.”

Instead of me just arguing back, calling her ignorant ect, I chose to respond to her message, first of all with a very polite greeting, and then I spoke a little about Joseph Smith, his history, and the Restoration of the Gospel. I then asked her to show me those verses that Joseph Smith “changed,” and I will be happy to discuss them with her. Long story short, she eventually calmed down, and told me that she has not actually read the “Joseph Smith Translation” of the Bible, and that she would buy one and read it. But, what amazed me the most was when she told me “thank you for being patient with me, and for talking the time to discuss my concerns with me.”

I didn’t actually hear from her again after that, although I have tried to message her, her Facebook account doesn’t seem very active anymore, but at least the seeds were planted, and she had a somewhat good experience discussing religion and faith with a Latter-day Saint. Hopefully she will be more receptive to learning more about the restoration.

It wasn’t what I was saying to her about the true Joseph Smith that changed her perception; it was rather the fact that I showed her Christlike kindness, and I didn’t judge her that helped her to change her perspectives, even if it was just a tiny bit.

So yes, no matter whom they are, or what they’re saying about our faith, us Latter-day Saints must always show kindness, compassion, and love to every single one of God’s Children. Most Anti-Mormon’s just don’t know what “Mormonism” truly is, and many have so many questions, even if they are going about it in the wrong way, so we need to be there to show them what our faith truly is all about…Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and his fully Restored Gospel.

The Truth Behind the City Creek Mall

The City Creek Mall, Salt Lake City, Utah.

IThe Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been heavily criticised of late, due to its funding and building of the City Creek Mall in Salt Lake City, Utah. The criticism has even come from many practicing Latter-day Saints. I once held a very negative view of the Church’s funding of the City Creek Mall, especially as malls represent everything that Satan represents (greed, gluttony, carnal desires, money etc etc). But, then I did some actual research for myself, and found out that the Church has indeed received revelation since the 1800’s, in which the Lord guided the Church into building businesses, which help finance the Church, and its welfare funds. I will however not budge on my beliefs that malls are not the best of businesses in a spiritual sense, but I don’t know all the facts and just how much the Brethren prayed over the construction of the mall.

I’m not an expert on the subject of the Church’s businesses, and how they’re ran, but Mormon Historian Dr. Micheal Quinn certainly is, and I encourage all Latter-dat Saints, and especially non-LDS who have questions regarding the City Creek Mall to watch this fantastic interview, in which Dr. Quinn explains the business ventures of the Church in detail. Please see the link below to watch the interview:

Muslims are Commanded to Protect Christians and Their Churches

Ashtiname of Muhammad manuscript, which was written by Muhammad’s Son-in-law Ali, but commissioned by Muhammad. Muhammad even signed it with an imprint of his hand.

Muslims who follow the Qur’an properly know how revered Christians are in Islam. Unfortunately though uneducated Radicals think it’s acceptable in Islam to destroy Churches. True Muslims like those in Mosul Iraq, and in Pakistan are rebuilding the Churches that were destroyed by ISIS. I’ll give you one example from the Qur’an (there are many) at how important Christians and their Churches are in Islam. The Radicals have totally gone astray from Islam, as many scholars have also stated.

“In Churches God has allowed to be raised up; and His name to be commemorated therein; therein glorifying Him, in the mornings and in the evenings, are men whom neither commerce nor trafficking diverts from the remembrance of God and to perform the prayer, and to pay the alms”

-Qur’an 24:36-37

Here is the letter that Muhammad sent to the Christians of St. Catherine’s Monastery In mount Sinai:

“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.

Verily I, the servants, the helpers (the Jews), and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them.

Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.

No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.

Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to figh

The Muslims are to fight for them.
If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.

Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”

-Ashtiname of Muhammad

Muslims are commanded to live alongside, and protect the rights of Christians. Do not be fooled by Radicals that what they’re doing is Islamic. Ironically it’s extremely anti-Islamic.

The Elder Poelman Fiasco at the 1984 General Conference

Elder Ronald L. Poelman giving his 1984 General Conference Sermon

I love the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I’m blessed to be a fully fledged member. However, the Church is not perfect (whereas the Gospel is), and our leaders can and do get things wrong from time to time, as they’re not infallible. The Elder Poelman 1984 General Conference fiasco is a time when our leaders got it all so wrong.

Many blogs have already been written on this subject (I’ll be posting some of them here), so there is no need to go into any details myself. Elder Ronald L. Poelman’s 1984 Conference talk is perhaps one of the finest ever given, and it’s one of the best talks on how the Gospel works, that has been given since our early Church leaders roamed the earth. But, most Saints have never heard it, why? Because a General Authority got a bee in his bonnet and demanded the talk be given again, this time highly edited, and as soon as the live General Conference finished, Poelman was marched back on stage where they rewrote his talk and made him do it again, even though the audience had already left.

I’m not trying to be antagonistic here, but I believe every member has the right to read/hear the original talk, as it was marvellous, plus I’m a strong believer in finding out the truth in all matters. If read properly, Poelman doesn’t say anything negative about the Church, he simply explains how the Gospel of Christ works. I sustain the current leaders of the Church, and it doesn’t matter to me that our past leaders have made mistakes, as that doesn’t affect how our current leaders govern the Church.

I bare testimony that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the truth, and that we are indeed lead by a loving living Prophet today, President Nelson, and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only Church on the face of the earth that holds the Priesthood keys and power. Even though leaders get things wrong from time to time, I know that the Lord will never let his Church fall into apostasy again.

Here is the edited version:

Here is a good write up on the fiasco: › th…The Greatest Talk the Church Has Never Given | Hope, Faith, and Reading Glasses

And another good article, explaining in more detail the situation: › bes…Web resultsThe Best Conference Talk You Never Read – Pure Mormonism

Here is what FairMormon have to say on the situation, one which sadly I don’t buy at all: › Ques…Web resultsDid the Church order Ronald L. Poelman’s 1984 conference talk to be … – FairMormon